[awesome123man]

Dear Arbisavage,
An idea originally presented by @Infinite Inferno struck me as a great way to control abuse of limitations for bot authors. Specifically for sdk mode. Instead of having sdk mode count towards usage time, make it only allow 1 instance at a time with no limit. That will make gold farming nearly impossible without using non-sdk mode.
Sincerely,
@awesome123man

Please post your ideas below or if you agree with this, like it
@Arbiter

 

[arbiter]

All limitations are server-side, not client-side. This would not be possible to implement in a non-reversible fashion.

 

[awesome123man]

All limitations are server-side, not client-side. This would not be possible to implement in a non-reversible fashion.

#Wrecked
Thanks for implementing the current temporary extra hours for bot authors. I see now why this idea doesnt work.

 

[american express]

Re-posting what I wrote in chat and can't be bothered reformatting

I think you need to identify that it is more advantageous to give bot authors more hour allowance, than to come down strict on them and restrict development opportunities

Don't make it blanket wide all bot authors? Make it opt-in and monitor it.

If I'm a bot author who is having to use my own money to fund accounts, membership and then development time through Runemate access, it doesn't exactly inspire me to create a lot of content

Cutting down one of these costs (Runemate access) would help with the motivation I'm sure

I definitely agree that the monitisation of Runemate as a service is the only way platforms like this can survive, I just think it could be tweaked a bit to make it fairer on content contributors

Just double the limit for bot authors. 400 Hours isn't enough to abuse it (in my opinion) and if you're a bot author requiring more than 400 hours a month, then I'm sure something can be arranged on a case by case basis

 

[arbiter]

Re-posting what I wrote in chat and can't be bothered reformatting

Today at 12:05 AM - kazemanie: I think you need to identify that it is more advantageous to give bot authors more hour allowance, than to come down strict on them and restrict development opportunities
kazemanie Today at 12:05 AM - kazemanie: Don't make it blanket wide all bot authors? Make it opt-in and monitor it.
kazemanie Today at 12:06 AM - kazemanie: If I'm a bot author who is having to use my own money to fund accounts, membership and then development time through Runemate access, it doesn't exactly inspire me to create a lot of content
kazemanie Today at 12:07 AM - kazemanie: Cutting down one of these costs (Runemate access) would help with the motivation I'm sure
Akazemanie Today at 12:10 AM - kazemanie: Meh, just voicing my thoughts :)
kazemanie Today at 12:10 AM - kazemanie: I definitely agree that the monitisation of Runemate as a service is the only way platforms like this can survive, I just think it could be tweaked a bit to make it fairer on content contributors
kazemanie 55 minutes ago - kazemanie: Just double the limit for bot authors. 400 Hours isn't enough to abuse it (in my opinion) and if you're a bot author requiring more than 400 hours a month, then I'm sure something can be arranged on a case by case basis

That's exactly what I did.

 

[awesome123man]

Re-posting what I wrote in chat and can't be bothered reformatting

I think you need to identify that it is more advantageous to give bot authors more hour allowance, than to come down strict on them and restrict development opportunities

Don't make it blanket wide all bot authors? Make it opt-in and monitor it.

If I'm a bot author who is having to use my own money to fund accounts, membership and then development time through Runemate access, it doesn't exactly inspire me to create a lot of content

Cutting down one of these costs (Runemate access) would help with the motivation I'm sure

I definitely agree that the monitisation of Runemate as a service is the only way platforms like this can survive, I just think it could be tweaked a bit to make it fairer on content contributors

Just double the limit for bot authors. 400 Hours isn't enough to abuse it (in my opinion) and if you're a bot author requiring more than 400 hours a month, then I'm sure something can be arranged on a case by case basis

400 hours for bot authors now just so you know...

 

[thayl0]

They shouldn't have to pay to bot. With out bot authors there would be no scripts. Without scripts there would be no supporters. Bot author give people a reason to donate money when they don't even get paid for anything.

 

[american express]

That's exactly what I did.

400 hours for bot authors now just so you know...

Disregard what I said then

So about my bot author application, did you get my bot submission yet?

if game = runescape
print you are playing runescape
else; you have a life

 

[awesome123man]

They shouldn't have to pay to bot. With out bot authors there would be no scripts. Without scripts there would be no supporters. Bot author give people a reason to donate money when they don't even get paid for anything.

Shared pot SoonTM @Arbiter

 

[aidden]

They shouldn't have to pay to bot. With out bot authors there would be no scripts. Without scripts there would be no supporters. Bot author give people a reason to donate money when they don't even get paid for anything.

The problem is if there was no limits for bot authors to allow them to do adequate bot testing, they could easily abuse that to gold farm or just level their skills etc. And anyone with half a brain could write the simplest bot and submit it to the store just so that they get bot author rank and then abuse the free access. And no, monitoring all bot author usage is not a feasible option.

 

[american express]

400 hours in 30 days = 13.3 hours per day

If you're a bot author who requires more than 13.3 hours per day for free, then you must be one hell of a bot author, producing a lot of high quality content on a regular basis.

I think 400 hours per month is perfect for bot authors. Gives them enough time to create bots, and also use Runemate for free in the background for their own personal botting.

 

[thayl0]

The problem is if there was no limits for bot authors to allow them to do adequate bot testing, they could easily abuse that to gold farm or just level their skills etc. And anyone with half a brain could write the simplest bot and submit it to the store just so that they get bot author rank and then abuse the free access. And no, monitoring all bot author usage is not a feasible option.

I should have included only for active bot makers that have a good section of scripts. Not for people with scripts that don't even function. There using there time to provide people scripts they deserve it.

 

[aidden]

400 hours in 30 days = 13.3 hours per day

If you're a bot author who requires more than 13.3 hours per day for free, then you must be one hell of a bot author, producing a lot of high quality content on a regular basis.

I think 400 hours per month is perfect for bot authors. Gives them enough time to create bots, and also use Runemate for free in the background for their own personal botting.

Don't forget that bot authors might like to run bots like normal users do and not only run them for testing purposes...

 

[american express]

Don't forget that bot authors might like to run bots like normal users do and not only run them for testing purposes...

Gives them enough time to create bots, and also use Runemate for free in the background for their own personal botting.

I know

 

[thayl0]

Everyone ignores my amazing idea.

 

[derk]

Everyone ignores my amazing idea.

That's because it's a terrible idea. How are you supposed to monitor every developer on this platform and verify if intentions are presumably legit or not? It's only adding a heavy burden on the back of arbiter, or whoever becomes responsible for it.

200 hours on top of the standard hours is more than enough. If I test myself I don't need even 1/4th of that.

 

[thayl0]

I see you like working for free. Come mow my yard while your at it.

 

[aidden]

I see you like working for free. Come mow my yard while your at it.

We aren't obliged to write bots for free. Bot authors can make their bots premium if they are willing to make a stable and maintained bot. There's also the option to make private bots. And in the future there will be the pot system, essentially paying bot authors an amount proportional to the usage of their bots out of the total usage of all bots. We choose to do it for free, for most of us it's a hobby and a learning experience. We'll get payment for our efforts if we so wish in due time.

 

[qosmiof2]

I see you like working for free. Come mow my yard while your at it.

You really enjoy being a dick don't you....

You should thank him for doing it you dipshit.

 

[derk]

I see you like working for free. Come mow my yard while your at it.

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